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Selena Offline
#1 Posted : Wednesday, 28 December 2011 9:49:34 PM(UTC)

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Hi all, just wondering if anyone can relate to this...

I have a 9 year old son, lovely child, normal and lovely realtionship with him since day one, he's never had a tantrum, all good. He's close to both myself and my husband, not really a preference for either, so very balanced.

I also have a 3 and a half year old daughter. At 10 months old she started showing a preference for her dad and over the next few months she took daddies girl to the extreme, literally seemed to hate me and it hasn't really changed since. She throws tantrums with me, she won't let me comfort her if she hurts herself, she all but ignores me, even glares at me, she won't show me affection except on very rare occassions and if I attempt to cuddle her she brushes my hand off or walks off or says no...she occassionly will just say "I hate you" to me or "I don't want you" and if she's angry she will hit and kick me...she will nastily say to me "get me a drink" and if I don't do it immediately she will hit and scream at me...she wouldn't dream of being like that with her dad, it's all angelic smiles for him...she just doesn't like me and I don't know why! With my husband she's engaging, fun, she loves affection with him and gives him tons of hugs and kisses, she rarely throws tantrums with him and overall her behaviour is a million times better with him...when people come over I wonder if they notice that she has nothing to do with me! It's been going on for so long now that I feel like I've lost her, it's almost like she's not my child, I'm just someone she tolerates who is there all the time (I'm a stay at home mum, have been since my first child). Obviously having had a normal relationship with my first child, this is really baffling to me, I can't think what I've done that makes my daughter this way with me and to see how she is with my husband is heartbreaking 'cos I love her so much and want her to be like that with me. I don't talk about this with anyone, I'm too embarrassed to really tell anyone just how much she rejects me...obviously my husband is aware of it but even he doesn't witness or know about the full extent of her behaviour towards me, I keep it to myself and cry about it in secret. I test it sometimes, like when my husband is out of the room I will attempt to brush her hair and she will literally pull away from my touch and won't let me do it, so then my husband walks in and I'll say "can you brush her hair please", then I'll watch her stand there, happily letting him spend ages brushing her hair and it's like a stab in the heart...I do everything I can as a parent, same as I did for my son and I'm still a nobody to my daughter, just someone she doesn't like much...she doesn't even notice if I leave the room and when I did have to go away for 2 days to visit my parents, when I got back she ignored me, didn't want a hug or anything...I thought this might be a phase but since 10 months to not far off 4 years old there's been no improvement...if dad's not around she'll ask her big brother before coming to me, I'm her last resort with everything. I think is she didn't have to, she'd never come to me for anything. I'm at the point where I can't wait for her to start full time school so I get that break from her in the day - it's soul destroying to care for someone all day who doesn't want to know you, it's a relief when I'm not around her...just don't know what to do any more. I tell her I love her and she doesn't answer.

I know when I had my first child, if someone else had told me this about their child I wouldn't have understood it because everything was normal with him or at leasst as you'd expect things to be - I never thought or imagined I'd have a child and have it not like me!!?? I love both my children so much, I just wish my daughter would love me like my son has always done, that there was more balance, that it wasn't all daddy, daddy, daddy...just putting it out there to see if anyone can relate...thanks in advance for any responses.Confused
Selena Offline
#2 Posted : Wednesday, 28 December 2011 10:07:33 PM(UTC)

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...I should add that my daughter will occassionly have a day or two or a short period where she behaves normally with me, when she seems to love me and her behaviour is lovely with me, similar to how she is with her dad...I treasure those days, those little patches, but it always goes back...I used to think those points might be the turning points but so far they haven't been...
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, 28 December 2011 10:29:28 PM(UTC)


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I'm sorry, I don't have any advice for you but it sounds like you're going through an awful time.

I sort of know what you mean as DD takes a slight preference to me but only because I'm the primary care-giver, she still loves and adores her dad (my DH)

I would suggest your case is quite extreme and probably calls for professional help. Maybe start by organising a meeting with your chn or your GP. There could be un underlying behavioural issue or health issue (like Austism?) or something that needs to be dealt with and maybe then your daughter and you can have a good relationship.

Good luck.
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Selena Offline
#4 Posted : Wednesday, 28 December 2011 10:53:33 PM(UTC)

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Thanks for replying...well the fact that she can behave normally with her dad and others seems to discount any organic cause for her behaviour...perhaps it was triggered by something at 10 months old and was somehow reinforced along the way, but for the life of me I can't think what...I don't smack, never have with my son or my daughter, no matter how difficult she's been, I try and keep calm, I interact, I play, I show love, I try everything...I just don't see how I could be contributing to how she is with me, but at the same time it has to be ME rather than her as she's fine with everyone else...my husband is quite dsimissive of it, convinced it's a phase, but I know if he was on the receiving end he'd see it a lot differently - with him at work all day he only gets the tail end of it, he doesn't see the all day long rejection as I've described and I've stopped telling him, probably because I'm getting used to it - sad isn't it? When he gets home I busy myself in the kitchen, anything to not have to watch her tranformation into this gorgeous little girl, it's painful to watch her with him afetr a day being told to go away etc...and when she's like that, being all lovely and smiley and happy, the telling of my day with her seems absurd, it's such a contradiction to my husbands experience of her. If I do attempt any interaction with her when dads around, nine times out of ten she will say, NO DADDY DO IT!...I've started avoiding because it's humilitating for me to be rejected by my own child in front of others and even my husband, so I'll do silly things like pretend to be putting on my shoes so her dad does whatever for her instead, just so I don't have to hear DADDY DO IT. The times I've swallowed down those rejections in front of others, only to cry over them in private later...when we're alone I'll sit down on the florr with a game in front of me, say come and play and often she will for awhile but she loses interest and if I say, come play with mum, she'll angrily say no, but God forbid if dad got out the same game 'cos I know she'd happily sit for hours loving it...
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#5 Posted : Thursday, 29 December 2011 9:01:53 AM(UTC)


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I can't imagine how difficult this must be for you!

I agree with the other ladies - have a chat with your CHN or GP and see if you can get a referral for a child or family psychologist. Actually, you might not even need a referral - I know when I made an appointment with a psychologist for Evelyn, I just researched and then called the one I wanted to see and booked in.

Hopefully there's something that the psychologist can see that can fix this situation for the both of you.

That said, people always have preferences, and in any family there are people you like more than others. It's just must be so heartbreaking to get that constant feeling that your own daughter doesn't like you.

Big hugs - I hope you get this sorted out soon.
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Selena Offline
#6 Posted : Thursday, 29 December 2011 10:34:59 PM(UTC)

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Thanks so much for replying...I guess I should at least talk to the health visitor...thank God for my son because he is proof that I'm a good mum, he'll be 10 soon and my relationship with him is such a relief to me and goes some way in helping me cope with my hit and miss relationship with my daughter...that said, I don't want it to go on this way, I want to have a good relationship with my daughter too, I love her as much as I do my son...maybe I'll look back on this in years to come and laugh at it, maybe it will turn out to be just a phase as my husband keeps telling me, an extreme version of daddies girl..that's what I'm hoping. I just tell myself that even if I don't get love back, if I love her to the fullest every single day, she will at least remember that in the future, I'll never give up on her! I feel that right now all I can do is keep trying. We do have good days and those keep me going, I know that nature dicates that my child probably does love me, I'm the mother afterall!! My daughter starts full time school soon, I'm hoping that will change things and she's growing up all the time, I don't see how she could feasibly go on disliking me indefinately when I'm doing nothing to deserve it...!? I will keep you posted, perhaps a chat with the HV will be the first step, maybe they will even reassure me or help me heal the rift in some way...thanks for listening and for all the advice and replies, very much appreciated xxx S x
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#7 Posted : Friday, 30 December 2011 9:10:29 AM(UTC)


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I'm sorry to hear that your are struggling with this.

but what is your husband doing about this behaviour, he should be supporting you and ignoring her when she rejects you when you are only trying to be her mother. It sounds like he is kinda liking the fact she is playing you off against him. and that would make me very cranky if my husband wasn't supporting me in this effort. Sad

I think its worth speaking to a professional, fair enough to be a daddy's girl but this sounds too extreme. to me it does sound like a behaviour problem such as asbergers "mild autism" which is what my brother has they can become very obsessive with a particular person, activity, tv show etc to the fact it takes over their life.

In the mean time you need to talk to your husband about how your really feeling and insist its not just a phase. Smile

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#8 Posted : Friday, 30 December 2011 9:28:03 AM(UTC)

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I remember seeing exactly the same thing happen on an episode of House of Tiny Tearaways once. There were moments of mother and daughter and other sibling being together in a small room and the mother trying to engage play with both of them. The daddy's girl was not forced to play with the mother but when the other sibling started to, then daddy's girl wanted to as well.

I can not remember the whole psychological stuff behind it all but if you are able to get a hold of that episode, it may help. Also, the father needs to be completely on board and fully supportive of you. I know the process will take time but with the right therapy, you can establish a loving relationship with your little girl.

Please seek professional help as the longer you leave it, the worse it will become!!
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Selena Offline
#9 Posted : Saturday, 31 December 2011 2:37:32 AM(UTC)

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Thanks to all who have replyed...and yes I certainly will be taking the advice I've been given and talking with my HV after the holidays and I will also have another chat with my husband and point out the difference between a phase and a long term behaviour! As has been said, my husband does love the attention he gets, I do wonder if sometimes he dismisses my concerns because he loves being the favourite parent - must be a nice feeling! I guess I find the concept that she might have something like ADHD /Aspergers hard to believe because surely she would exhibit that in other ways, in other places, with other people...?? I don't want to be quick to stick labels on her. My feeling is she's got into this pattern of behaviour for some reason or another - probably something silly at the time, no idea what, but perhaps it established how she is with me and I haven't done enough or the right thing to put it back on course...I don't want to blame her, she's only 3 years old, I have to look at myself first. I do look at her with others and feel such a pang in my heart because I don't get to have that little girl, I feel I'm missing out on so much! She's MY GIRL but it doesn't feel like that...I just wish I meant more to her (maybe I do, but she has a funny way of showing it! Blink )...as I said, we have good days, good patches and although it's still far from how I want it, I'd say she's getting better with me over time rather than worse, I think we have peaked and now we're inching towards something better, but at times it feels like 3 steps forward, 1 step back...I'll see what the HV says and let you know....thanks again for all the kind words and helpful advice, I'll get there!!! Wub
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#10 Posted : Saturday, 31 December 2011 2:41:12 AM(UTC)

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Tracy D wrote:
I remember seeing exactly the same thing happen on an episode of House of Tiny Tearaways once. There were moments of mother and daughter and other sibling being together in a small room and the mother trying to engage play with both of them. The daddy's girl was not forced to play with the mother but when the other sibling started to, then daddy's girl wanted to as well.



I'll try and find that, thank you! Funny because that does happen with my daughter...if she sees my son and I sitting together or if I start laughing with him and having fun, she will come and join in - oddly one time this happened I was dancing around like a loon and being silly with my boy and she yelled I MISS YOU to me...such a funny thing to say...I said well I miss you too and danced with her - whenever she does extend love to me, I grab it with both hands and shower her with it back...sadly I don't get that many opportunities. She's so beautiful and funny and clever...I want my little girl back Confused
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#11 Posted : Saturday, 31 December 2011 4:57:33 AM(UTC)


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Oh Selena, this is a heartbreaking situation. I'm glad to hear that u keep showing her that u love her, it must b v difficult at times, with the rejection. I agree with the advice given, talk to a gp or psychologist and see if u can explain the extent of her behaviour/ your feelings to DH. Good luck. Hugs
Selena Offline
#12 Posted : Saturday, 31 December 2011 8:21:59 AM(UTC)

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Perhaps I will just get my husband to read this thread - to be honest I doubt I could say this out loud, I'd probably just cry and babble, I've bottled a lot of it up for a long time now, partly down to embarrassment that my own child doesn't seem to like me and partly because I always just hoped (and still hope) that it would all turn around again, that it was just the phase my husband insists it is. My friends must think I'm mad because on the occassions my daughter has come to me with affection etc, I act like someone starving for it, literally scoop her up and hold on tight - probably disproportionate to what's normal at that moment, but the times are so rare that it's hard to let them go...when I put her to bed at night I watch her fall asleep and sit in the room for awhile afterwards, I'll sit by her bed and hold her hand (she can't pull away while she's sleeping)...makes me sad that I have to do that to feel close...but on a brighter note, she is getting better as I said..at times she's clearly enjoying my company and laughing with me and I'll see her almost be surprised with herself, I think she's become used to being a certain way with me in the same way I've become used to it...I simply make the most of the good times and try and do my best through the bad...I don't show her that I'm sad, I just try and try again later if I'm pushed away, I keep things light wherever I can and if she does say I don't love you etc, I ALWAYS say...well I love you!...it's all I feel I can do, just keep being her mum exactly as I was with my son...hopefully a chat with the HV will help and given time, things will heal and be NORMAL in the future....Gosh I hope so!!! I hope that in the future she will laugh when I tell her what she was like with me as a toddler, that she won't be able to believe it!! I hope so...anyway, thanks for listening, feels better to at least get it out...I'll keep you posted, thanks all x
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#13 Posted : Saturday, 31 December 2011 9:25:34 AM(UTC)

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Letting him read this is a good idea and a great starting point to break the ice with him. You sound like a wonderful loving mum and anyone of us would be heartbroken too if it was happening to us, you are very strong.

I think a professional point in the right direction is all you need and I am pretty sure that you will be able to turn your daughter around with the right knowledge and tools which is what counselling can do for you. ThumpUp
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#14 Posted : Saturday, 31 December 2011 11:01:31 AM(UTC)


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Good on you for asking for advice and now seeking professional help to get behind the issue and be able to restore your relationship. You definately need DH on board so either get him to read this thread or else write a letter of all your concerns to him, if you can't talk about it out loud. Best of luck and keep us posted on your progress
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Selena Offline
#15 Posted : Saturday, 31 December 2011 7:34:27 PM(UTC)

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I will keep you posted, thanks so much for the support...my daughter just came to me to remind me about bringing the flasks with us today (nevermind lol), I said thanks for being such a helpful girl and gave her a kiss before she could stop me hehehe She did smile, then I carried on with what I'd been doing, didn't want to spoil the moment by pushing too much...we'll get there and a chat with the HV is at the top of my to do list for 2012, that and talking to my husband...here's to a better 2012, I will let you all know how I get on, I feel better after this thread, it's helped a lot to get it out there and I hope I can report good progress as the year goes on, thanks so much all! S x
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